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Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 08:47:00 - [1] Last I heard Tux was playing with an MWD mass reduction bonus, but I haven't heard anything since and I'm not sure if I missed it, (I'm guessing not, but one can hope). On a related note: Is there any likelihood of this mythical new bonus being extended to the Thorax, which has the same MWD non-bonus? Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 09:50:00 - [2] Originally by: Tuxford We put an armor repair bonus on it for now. I hate to say it, but that really is very disappointing. I'd almost rather have the old MWD bonus than that, at least that had something to do with the role of the ship. I'd like to reverse my second question from my OP: Please tell me this isn't being passed on to the Thorax too? Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 09:58:00 - [3] Originally by: Spenz my god someone call the waaaaahhmbulance. Hurrah for armor rep bonus. If you want a blasterboat get a vindicator. Given that We have been repeatedly told that the Hyperion will be a dedicated blaster boat, I don't think it's actually too much to ask for it's bonuses to reflect that. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Sinjin Smythe Originally by: Tuxford We put an armor repair bonus on it for now. Im both amused and disgusted everytime a dev says something and then, 20 ppl goes emo and starts crying and moaning about it. Is it hard to read? He said FOR NOW, not that it is permanent. FOR NOW. See? Do you understand the meaning of that? As in not permanent? They have several times said they dont know what to give the Hyperion for its second bonus, they are still experimenting. Stop acting like 10-year old children. If we don't register our disappointment there's always the chance that the Devs will mistakenly believe we like the bonus and will end up leaving it there. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Deepeh Who the ** cares? Why make the Hyperion a blaster boat? The Megathron does the job fine. The Megathron does the job barely adequately. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort**
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Ithildin I believe the bonuses are: +7.5% armour repair amount per cycle per level +5% large hybrid turret damage per level That's what I assumed from Tux's post. What I was hoping for was something along the lines of: 'x% bonus to effectiveness of mass and inertia reduction of Nanofibre Internal Structure and Inertial Stabilisers.' Where 'x' is a number balanced to ensure the bonus isn't utterly uber. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:14:00 - [7] Originally by: Nafri hey come on, it could have been a shield boosting bonus, which is probably the worst bonus for PvP ever -.- I havent used a shield booster since they boosted shield extenders, even for npcing shield boosting is pointless, 3x large shield extenders and 2x hardeners do the job much better It could at that. Thanks for putting it in perspective for me. With this bonus though, the Rokh will be a better blaster boat. Imagine that optimal bonus using Null ammo on Neutrons. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Alex Tremayne Originally by: Nafri hey come on, it could have been a shield boosting bonus, which is probably the worst bonus for PvP ever -.- I havent used a shield booster since they boosted shield extenders, even for npcing shield boosting is pointless, 3x large shield extenders and 2x hardeners do the job much better It could at that. Thanks for putting it in perspective for me. With this bonus though, the Rokh will be a better blaster boat. Imagine that optimal bonus using Null ammo on Neutrons. still the gallente ship will be the second fastest BS, only inferior to the phoon True. That, at least has been got right. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Alex Tremayne Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Alex Tremayne Originally by: Nafri hey come on, it could have been a shield boosting bonus, which is probably the worst bonus for PvP ever -.- I havent used a shield booster since they boosted shield extenders, even for npcing shield boosting is pointless, 3x large shield extenders and 2x hardeners do the job much better It could at that. Thanks for putting it in perspective for me. With this bonus though, the Rokh will be a better blaster boat. Imagine that optimal bonus using Null ammo on Neutrons. still the gallente ship will be the second fastest BS, only inferior to the phoon True. That, at least has been got right. And it will make the autopest as usefull as a freezer on the northpole Sadly, yes. My other character flies Minmatar exclusively, and I love the Autopest but it is going to have issues with lack of role due to the Hyperion. Which is why I suggested the replacement bonus I did earlier in the thread. If one were to give the Hyperion a low to average base speed, then the bonus I suggested would still allow it to be fast on AB/MWD but you'd have to sacrifice lows to do so, thus negating a tank. Whereas the Tempest would still be generally fast and able to tank better than the Hyperion. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 13:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Hoshi I see little reason to use a tempest for fleets (other than to save some isk). The tempest will align and warp faster for when you want to run, because in keeping with Minmatar design philosophy, the Maelstrom is a big, slow, heavy, tanking machine. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 14:32:00 - [11] Edited by: Alex Tremayne on 05/10/2006 14:35:45 Originally by: Tasty Burger Edited by: Tasty Burger on 05/10/2006 14:06:32 Originally by: Cuebick I have come to the conclusion that the Gallente people are NEVER EVER happy with what they get.. EVER. Except for the Domi, Ishtar and Taranis. The Mega for me is great and tbfh imo tier3 bs wont be the kings of the hills. They dont realize that they already have the two best battleships in game, by far. Anyone who disagrees is a ***** idiot. The raven is 3rd best btw. Originally by:** Alex Tremayne Originally by: Hoshi I see little reason to use a tempest for fleets (other than to save some isk). The tempest will align and warp faster for when you want to run, because in keeping with Minmatar design philosophy, the Maelstrom is a big, slow, heavy, tanking machine. Yeah... too bad in a fleet you're already aligned anyway. You know nothing. Stop posting. Whereas you clearly have no concept of either 'sarcasm' or 'irony'. Keep posting. You amuse me. edit: typo Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Donmadefy from what I remember, the locking range of the Hype is going to be really short, so any hybrid bonus wont be as effective on rails. How about a 7.5%/level tracking bonus and a +3%/level inertial stabiliser bonus (both to mass and speed)? That way you're getting the tracking for moving fast, the manouverability (sp?) and speed. You're propsing we lose the damage bonus? I could live with that in exchange for tracking. It would be way too uber to have the second bonus affect agility and speed though. One or the other. Preferably agility/mass, that way the ship would be fast on AB/MWD but not uber without it. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort

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